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why does anon get mad if its said some people cant get helped completely tho

it can make some people feel bad but some people literally can't get better, all it does is make anon hate people for not trying hard enough

some people are permanently fucked up and no amount of hogboxing will fix it

having worked in a hospital yeah p. much

it must be really demoralizing to see ppl that can never get better

in a weird way coming to terms with the fact that i'd always prob struggle in some way with mental issues even with help has made me not hate myself as much

i feel like nonas have never met anyone like that

my dad is an addict and abusive and too old to change

u rly want to tell me everyone can get better

no one was talking about abusive ppl tho

it's not that everyone can get better, it's that there's no way 2 know who can or can't get better

sometimes u can tho

well publish ur thesis bc being able to figure out who can and can't recover will get u a phd

delusion is a strong feeling biba

but that's what yr saying. we're talking about ppl who have been through the ringer not someone u just met

i mean if someone rly feels like they have tried everything and they rationally decide they have no interest in continuing that's one thing

but ppl running around saying "some ppl r just 2 fucked up 2 live" is irresponsible bullshit

except it's true. i'm sorry if that fucks up yr life view or whatever but some mi's are untreatable and some ppl are too far gone. noone is blaming depressed ppl here. there's a big gap in what we're saying and what you're hearing.

depressed ppl do not need to feel coddled all the time, they know how to read and understand things without having to rely on optimistic bs that makes them feel worse bc it's not working like they want.

da yeah some situations are just so fucked up and when i say i don't mean it as a moral judgment or a personal judgment on people here

but some people are too far gone and its a sad thing and they deserve sympathy for it but false hope does look condescending

nayrt but saying no one is so far gone that suicide is LITERALLY the only option is not "optimistic bs"

go fuck yourself

literally no one has said that suicide is the only option.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-06-19 23:24 (UTC) - Expand

"some mi's are untreatable and some ppl are too far gone"

i am not debating this

i am simply saying that this is something each person has to decide for themselves and ppl offering their hot take or w/e on the subject aren't helping

nayrt saying an objective fact isn't telling nonas they can't be helped

otoh its prob the reason anon gets mad when some nonas are in therapy and still have issues after the fact

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(Anonymous) - 2015-06-19 23:23 (UTC) - Expand

Re: tw mi

(Anonymous) - 2015-06-19 23:21 (UTC) - Expand

bc there's literally no way for anyone 2 know who can or can't be helped

and ppl with depression often convince themselves they're beyond help when it's not tru

no one is talking about that tho but nice derailment

depends on the mental disorder and if they have access to help

i dont think ppl are inherently ever beyond help, i do however think societal factors can make it impossible for some ppl and we should do things to make it not that way, like improving mental health and access to it, the societal conditions that can lead to mis etc

god shut the fuck up it is so obvious u have never had to deal w/ mi

wat is wrong w/wat i said

lol what did they say that wasn't true tho

suicidally depressed ppl are convinced that suicide is the only way because guess what, they're fucking suicidal