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nonas, are things adding up for you?
deletion thread
watimis wrt nonas posting images at www.femdome.net
read mark's reply about us not getting images back here
nonas, are things adding up for you?
deletion thread
watimis wrt nonas posting images at www.femdome.net
read mark's reply about us not getting images back here
can you ban fun_factz_anon please?
Hiya,
First, there's a common misconception that "not doing what we want" is the same as "not listening". I can promise you that I am listening, Denise is listening, and we talked about and debated what to do about the problems and it wasn't just snap decisions made to annoy people. In this case, certain communities and a subset of the userbase is not happy about the decisions made -- and that sucks, and I'm sorry that it impacts your use case -- but we are ABSOLUTELY listening.
At the end of the day, though, I have to balance the entirety of Dreamwidth's usage (anon memes are just one set) as well as my own beliefs about the health and wellbeing of the site and also what I personally want to see for it in the future. That's part of my function here, and I try to do it to the best of my ability.
1. Correct, the original problem was a bad interaction with tables and the code we have that un-links HTML for anonymous comments (i.e., converts A and IMG tags to placeholders). Real users don't have those restrictions, so they weren't able to exploit the table issue to break the display.
2. Respectfully, I started working on LiveJournal in 2001 and have been doing Dreamwidth since 2008. My opinion as regards spam and how to effectively combat it is backed by 12 years of experience in this area. Again, though, I'm really sorry it impacts the way some people use the site! That's shitty, and I hate doing that. If I could give everybody a pony, I would, but I can't.
3. I personally hate options :), I want to get rid of 90% of the ones we have. So, from my own point of view, no, I don't like the idea.
4. A special-case for one account is just going to cause more people to pipe up and then we're back where we started, except with lots of manual administration for deciding who gets the magical ticky boxes. I really don't want to be the arbitrator of that.
At any rate, my own time for questions:
I'm curious, where would you go? What site supports what you want to do? I would like to evaluate how they handle the spam and security issues inherent in supporting this kind of content. (And, note, if the answer is 'some small site nobody has heard of' then it's not helpful to me -- small sites can have crappy practices because spammers don't target small sites. I honestly want to know what reasonably sized site allows the behavior you want.)
And, perhaps more interestingly, why do people want to use tables anyway? I've mostly seen it used for evil -- embedding images to bypass the anonymous comment security rules, breaking the flow of content, etc.
But, you know, I'm data driven. I wanted to see how hms_anon uses tables, so I took the liberty of investigating. I wrote a quick script (you can review it at https://gist.github.com/xb95/f2a0e214a8c5816d90ff) to look at all comments in the community that contained a table tag. I broke them down by what the table tag was being used to do, and came up with:
* 24,846 background image hacks
* 84 font change hacks
* 62 height hacks (make a very tall table)
* 6 other (misc font hacks, it looks like)
So, out of nearly 25,000 uses of the table tag in hms_anon, the overwhelming majority of them were used to circumvent the restriction against posting images in anonymous comments. That functionality won't be coming back. We will not allow images to be directly embedded in anonymous comments.
If people really want to embed images, please create accounts. It's simple, it's easy, and it helps us fight spam by being able to track where content comes from.
Thanks for writing, I hope this is helpful.
--Mark
Okay, you've all gotten your laughs, we're moving on now.
-- Denise
-- Denise
this has been fun and all, but i've got 300 eggs need deviling so i am outa hurr
does anyone remember why daha *daha*ed
iirc it wasn't actually a laugh noise, there was some other raisin
iirc it wasn't actually a laugh noise, there was some other raisin
this has been fun and all, but i've got 300 eggs need birthing so i am outa hurr
have you been stealing other blueskulls' eggs again
Fashionably gluten-free is the domain of the comfortably middle class, who are not the primary users of food banks.
jenny lewis came out!!
jk it was the other jenny musician
jk it was the other jenny musician
Dogs drool because they are descended from Pavlov's dog, which was taught to drool in response to food in 1901.
c&p fun factz anon's bullshit and let's see if they even realize it's wrong
The short version: no embeds, don't out people's real names, don't be that much of an asshole, body fluids are off topic
they still mad
they still mad
speaking of pee, i need to go badly and i can't afford a new deskchair
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